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		<title>Comment on 5 Burning Questions About Sales Compensation Administration by Erik Charles</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2010/04/12/5-burning-questions-sales-compensation/#comment-2237</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Great information and great questions.  I found a recent survey that ranked the top three administrative challenges for &lt;a&gt;sales compensation&lt;/a&gt;:
1.  To many manual adjustments
2.  Complexity
3.  Data Security issues
Administration can eat up the majority of time of an analyst.  Check out these actionable ways to ditch admin and reclaim an analyst role, http://www.xactlycorp.com/media/2011/12/ditch-administration-reclaim-your-compensation-analyst-role/&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Great information and great questions.  I found a recent survey that ranked the top three administrative challenges for <a>sales compensation</a>:<br />
1.  To many manual adjustments<br />
2.  Complexity<br />
3.  Data Security issues<br />
Administration can eat up the majority of time of an analyst.  Check out these actionable ways to ditch admin and reclaim an analyst role, <a href="http://www.xactlycorp.com/media/2011/12/ditch-administration-reclaim-your-compensation-analyst-role/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xactlycorp.com/media/2011/12/ditch-administration-reclaim-your-compensation-analyst-role/</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improve Forecast Accuracy with Five Key Pipeline Metrics by Thomas Barrieau</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2011/10/26/improve-forecast-accuracy-with-five-key-pipeline-metrics/#comment-2220</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Barrieau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi,

Thanks for the comment.  I agree that &quot;quality is in the eye of the beholder&quot; and that a sales rep&#039;s optimism can mask an opportunity&#039;s true likelihood of closing.  There are two ways of addressing this... 

One method would be to hold salespeople accountable by reporting back to them how well they are rating the quality of their opportunities.  If they are consistently optimistic, they can be coached to be more realistic.  Likewise if they are consistently pessimistic.  This approach has the virtue of being a simple and quick solution.  It&#039;s downside is that management intervention (i.e., coaching) is required.

The other alternative eliminates the requirement to do reporting and coaching, but it is more complex.  This involves using the CRM system to calculate each rep&#039;s historical performance as far as how they rank their opportunities.  A coefficient can then be developed that adjusts for individual optimism/pessimism.  This latter approach only makes sense if you&#039;ve got a relatively stable workforce and enough historical data to compute meaningful coefficients.  

Regarding velocity...  Your point about clients having the ultimate say on when they buy is well taken — I&#039;ve never been a fan of artificially rushing the sales process.  The point of using velocity as a pipeline metric is that a given company&#039;s sales process &lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt; have an average velocity.  Factoring that into the computation of a forecast is, therefore, always going to improve your accuracy, particularly if you take into account variability that is due to seasonality or product line.  While there will always be end-of-quarter attempts to pull in deals that are close to closing, I see velocity as something that should never be manipulated as part of the forecasting process; it&#039;s merely one of those variables that must be factored in to improve accuracy.  

Any attempt at improving pipeline velocity should be done independently of the forecasting process, as part of a systematic effort to improve the efficiency of the sales process.  While this is a good goal (IDC research indicates that most IT customers wish that purchase cycles were shorter), it is not something that can be done quickly and &lt;em&gt;must&lt;/em&gt; be done in a manner that does not damage customer relationships - just as you point out.  If efforts to shorten the sales cycle are successful, the velocity variable in forecast calculation can then be adjusted accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  I agree that &#8220;quality is in the eye of the beholder&#8221; and that a sales rep&#8217;s optimism can mask an opportunity&#8217;s true likelihood of closing.  There are two ways of addressing this&#8230; </p>
<p>One method would be to hold salespeople accountable by reporting back to them how well they are rating the quality of their opportunities.  If they are consistently optimistic, they can be coached to be more realistic.  Likewise if they are consistently pessimistic.  This approach has the virtue of being a simple and quick solution.  It&#8217;s downside is that management intervention (i.e., coaching) is required.</p>
<p>The other alternative eliminates the requirement to do reporting and coaching, but it is more complex.  This involves using the CRM system to calculate each rep&#8217;s historical performance as far as how they rank their opportunities.  A coefficient can then be developed that adjusts for individual optimism/pessimism.  This latter approach only makes sense if you&#8217;ve got a relatively stable workforce and enough historical data to compute meaningful coefficients.  </p>
<p>Regarding velocity&#8230;  Your point about clients having the ultimate say on when they buy is well taken — I&#8217;ve never been a fan of artificially rushing the sales process.  The point of using velocity as a pipeline metric is that a given company&#8217;s sales process <em>will</em> have an average velocity.  Factoring that into the computation of a forecast is, therefore, always going to improve your accuracy, particularly if you take into account variability that is due to seasonality or product line.  While there will always be end-of-quarter attempts to pull in deals that are close to closing, I see velocity as something that should never be manipulated as part of the forecasting process; it&#8217;s merely one of those variables that must be factored in to improve accuracy.  </p>
<p>Any attempt at improving pipeline velocity should be done independently of the forecasting process, as part of a systematic effort to improve the efficiency of the sales process.  While this is a good goal (IDC research indicates that most IT customers wish that purchase cycles were shorter), it is not something that can be done quickly and <em>must</em> be done in a manner that does not damage customer relationships &#8211; just as you point out.  If efforts to shorten the sales cycle are successful, the velocity variable in forecast calculation can then be adjusted accordingly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improve Forecast Accuracy with Five Key Pipeline Metrics by Levi Spires</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2011/10/26/improve-forecast-accuracy-with-five-key-pipeline-metrics/#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi Spires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quality is in the eye of the beholder and most sales reps believe their next sale will be the greatest. That&#039;s good too, you want sales people that are excited. But I&#039;ve never measured velocity. Reading through your post I think it has some merit but in the end the client has to want to sign. Speeding up the process may only hurt the long-term aspect of the relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quality is in the eye of the beholder and most sales reps believe their next sale will be the greatest. That&#8217;s good too, you want sales people that are excited. But I&#8217;ve never measured velocity. Reading through your post I think it has some merit but in the end the client has to want to sign. Speeding up the process may only hurt the long-term aspect of the relationship.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Different Lenses – Dealing with Inconsistent or Undocumented Sales Processes by Phil Martin</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2011/12/21/different-lenses-%e2%80%93-dealing-with-inconsistent-or-undocumented-sales-processes/#comment-2216</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-2143&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2143&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marci&#032;Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
I agree with both positions….. Selling is a science and I have been involved in several experiments which proved that by completing certain actions at the right time, with the right person, with the right approach- you will close more sales. At the same time- automation can take the guesswork out of the sales process- and make it easier and faster for Salespeople to follow best practices.To get the best results, combine both sales documentation and sales automation. Great post!


Marci Reynolds
The Sales Operations Blog


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&#039;completing certain actions at the right time, with the right person, with the right approach- you will close more sales&#039; - all this requires judgment .... which sounds like more of an art to me!</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-2143" rel="nofollow">Marci&#032;Reynolds</a></strong>:<br />
I agree with both positions….. Selling is a science and I have been involved in several experiments which proved that by completing certain actions at the right time, with the right person, with the right approach- you will close more sales. At the same time- automation can take the guesswork out of the sales process- and make it easier and faster for Salespeople to follow best practices.To get the best results, combine both sales documentation and sales automation. Great post!</p>
<p>Marci Reynolds<br />
The Sales Operations Blog</p>
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<p>&#8216;completing certain actions at the right time, with the right person, with the right approach- you will close more sales&#8217; &#8211; all this requires judgment &#8230;. which sounds like more of an art to me!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 10 Tips To Increase Engagement During Virtual Meetings by Todd McCormick (@TMcCormick2011)</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2010/11/07/10-tips-to-increase-engagement-during-virtual-meetings/#comment-2179</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd McCormick (@TMcCormick2011)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great tips. Being creative can really help with keeping participants attention in a virtual atmosphere.  Here are my 9 surefire ways to jumpstart participation in &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.pgi.com/2011/9-surefire-ways-to-jumpstart-participation-in-virtual-meetings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; virtual meetings&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great tips. Being creative can really help with keeping participants attention in a virtual atmosphere.  Here are my 9 surefire ways to jumpstart participation in <a href="http://blog.pgi.com/2011/9-surefire-ways-to-jumpstart-participation-in-virtual-meetings" rel="nofollow"> virtual meetings</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Different Lenses – Dealing with Inconsistent or Undocumented Sales Processes by Marci Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2011/12/21/different-lenses-%e2%80%93-dealing-with-inconsistent-or-undocumented-sales-processes/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>Marci Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with both positions..... Selling is a science and I have been involved in several experiments which proved that by completing certain actions at the right time, with the right person, with the right approach- you will close more sales. At the same time- automation can take the guesswork out of the sales process- and make it easier and faster for Salespeople to follow best practices.  To get the best results, combine both sales documentation and sales automation. Great post!

Marci Reynolds
The Sales Operations Blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with both positions&#8230;.. Selling is a science and I have been involved in several experiments which proved that by completing certain actions at the right time, with the right person, with the right approach- you will close more sales. At the same time- automation can take the guesswork out of the sales process- and make it easier and faster for Salespeople to follow best practices.  To get the best results, combine both sales documentation and sales automation. Great post!</p>
<p>Marci Reynolds<br />
The Sales Operations Blog</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cold Calling Trends in 2010: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly by Teri (Lead Generation Guru)</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2010/05/24/cold-calling-trends-in-2010-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>Teri (Lead Generation Guru)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cold calling isn&#039;t particularly dead. A lot of strong companies still do this in order to make their daily, monthly, and even yearly sales quotas. It does not mean that cold calling is always associated with telesales. It can also be for lead generation, appointment setting, and a whole bunch of other marketing strategies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cold calling isn&#8217;t particularly dead. A lot of strong companies still do this in order to make their daily, monthly, and even yearly sales quotas. It does not mean that cold calling is always associated with telesales. It can also be for lead generation, appointment setting, and a whole bunch of other marketing strategies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Ideas For CRM &#8220;End Of Year&#8221; Fine Tuning by Seizing End-of-Year B2B Selling Opportunities &#124; Sales Management 2.0 Conference</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2010/12/05/crm-fine-tuning/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>Seizing End-of-Year B2B Selling Opportunities &#124; Sales Management 2.0 Conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5 Ideas for CRM &#8220;End of Year&#8221; Fine Tuning &#8212; Marci Reynolds, Sales Operations Blog [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Automating Incentive Comp With Xactly by Helen S.</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2009/07/11/automating-incentive-comp-with-xactly/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this interesting article.
While I was doing research, I found a very great tool to manage compensation.

Here is the link : www.oneclickstatements.com/hr-compensation-management.html

Helen S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this interesting article.<br />
While I was doing research, I found a very great tool to manage compensation.</p>
<p>Here is the link : <a href="http://www.oneclickstatements.com/hr-compensation-management.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oneclickstatements.com/hr-compensation-management.html</a></p>
<p>Helen S.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Improve Forecast Accuracy with Five Key Pipeline Metrics by Thomas Barrieau</title>
		<link>http://salesoperationsblog.com/2011/10/26/improve-forecast-accuracy-with-five-key-pipeline-metrics/#comment-1827</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Barrieau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasan,

You raise excellent points.  Forecast accuracy is an elusive goal that must be tackled from multiple angles.  While intelligently extracting and using data from your CRM system is a great starting point, improvement can only come with ongoing examination of what causes inaccuracy to creep into the picture.  Sandbagging and &quot;rolling garbage&quot; are definite culprits in this regard.

Your suggested solution, investigation on the part of sales operations professionals overseeing the forecasting process, is spot on.  This is why we&#039;ve always considered good pipeline reports that are understood and used by first-line sales managers (FLSMs) to be a vital part of successful CRM implementations.  A pipeline review process that is a standard part of how sales teams operate not only raises team member accountability, it also provides an easy way to spot irregularities over time.  

When opportunities never die (the &quot;rolling garbage&quot; problem you point out) or sales reps engage in sandbagging, the velocity metric will suffer.  Looking for opportunities that have a long &quot;time-in-stage&quot; will reveal the former, while a velocity metric that always goes down near month or quarter end is a clear sign of the latter.  It still requires a diligent sales operations professional to sniff out these problems, but regular reports that are read and used by FLSMs can provide an excellent way to engage them in resolving these issues when they are identified.

- Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasan,</p>
<p>You raise excellent points.  Forecast accuracy is an elusive goal that must be tackled from multiple angles.  While intelligently extracting and using data from your CRM system is a great starting point, improvement can only come with ongoing examination of what causes inaccuracy to creep into the picture.  Sandbagging and &#8220;rolling garbage&#8221; are definite culprits in this regard.</p>
<p>Your suggested solution, investigation on the part of sales operations professionals overseeing the forecasting process, is spot on.  This is why we&#8217;ve always considered good pipeline reports that are understood and used by first-line sales managers (FLSMs) to be a vital part of successful CRM implementations.  A pipeline review process that is a standard part of how sales teams operate not only raises team member accountability, it also provides an easy way to spot irregularities over time.  </p>
<p>When opportunities never die (the &#8220;rolling garbage&#8221; problem you point out) or sales reps engage in sandbagging, the velocity metric will suffer.  Looking for opportunities that have a long &#8220;time-in-stage&#8221; will reveal the former, while a velocity metric that always goes down near month or quarter end is a clear sign of the latter.  It still requires a diligent sales operations professional to sniff out these problems, but regular reports that are read and used by FLSMs can provide an excellent way to engage them in resolving these issues when they are identified.</p>
<p>- Tom</p>
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